AVID:Requests for Comment/Allow in-credit notices that are accompanied by a sound element

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Closing with the following outcome:

• Proposal 1: Pass
• Propossl 2: Fail

VortexArto (talk) 17:10, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

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Allow the above globally

This proposal, if passed, will allow the documentation and posting of in-credit notices that lack a graphical (logo) element, but are accompanied by an audio element, such as a voiceover or other sound effect. A closing theme would not suffice.

This mostly affects game show producers such as Goodson-Todman, Heatter-Quigley, Hatos-Hall, and others. Most of these producers had two iterations of their notice: their initial version, usually from the 1950s to the 1970s, that consisted solely of plaintext with a voice over, and an updated version usually starting in the 1970s, usually the same with the exception of a symbol of some sort (e.g. the Goodson-Todman asterisk, the Hatos-Hall "HH", etc.). It is patently absurd that the later versions, which just happen to include a graphic element, are allowed, but the earlier revisions, which are practically the same thing, are not.

Furthermore, these notices and voiceovers have etched themselves into the public consciousness. In ABC's 2023 series The Game Show Show, historian Adam Nedeff called the Goodson-Todman notice "the seal of quality" for their genres of programming during a montage of the notices, and Monty Hall referred to its ubiquity on a 1975 Wide World of Entertainment discussion panel, noting that it went out over the air at least 41 times a week at the time.

I do apologize for focusing mostly on a particular genre of programming in this proposal, but that also serves to illustrate how few pages (and by extension the wiki's storage footprint) this proposal would affect. One non-TV example of this that is already in place on the wiki is the 1982 German Twentieth Century-Fox video logo; it's just a title card but is accompanied by the Fox theme.

Support

1. Support Makes sense VortexArto (talk) 11:46, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
2. Support Luke2505 (talk) 23:06, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
3. Support TweePopImprovisation (talk) 00:27, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
4. Support AlmightyKingPrawn (talk) 00:55, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
5. Support · Talk · Edits 17:29, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
6. Support, I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed on-site in this sort of scenario. Eternity Media Group (talk) 04:52, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Abstain

1.  Abstain I'm unsure about that, but maybe at the very least only do that if it has its own music. I don't think just a voiceover notice would qualify. Gilby1385 (talk) 11:52, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose ForcedExcess26 (talk) 17:00, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

   What is your concern with the request? --Raidarr (talk) 12:00, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Establish a system to approve exceptions on a case-by-case basis

This flavor of the above proposal, if passed, would instead allow exceptions on a case-by-case basis for any exception to the no in-credit rule through consultation with moderators.

Support

1. Support Best option for me, I guess. Gilby1385 (talk) 11:52, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

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